the bill that's currently being voted on is to suspend the debt ceiling. i've had several e-mails i have to say, congressman, in the last 24 hours, the word suspend makes some people nervous but i think that, i don't see any malicious intent to allow the debt ceiling to get out of control before may, so you think that one is going to pass, correct? >> i think it is going to pass and the suspension was done because the treasury can't tell us right now what will get us past the budget season. our goal was it's not the fact that we have this huge debt which is a gigantic issue. there's no plan to ever get out of debt so we're trying to push back to the senate to say you do a budget, we'll do a budget and as soon as the budget is over for both of us, then we'll deal with the debt ceiling after that. why are we dealing with the debt ceiling when we don't have a plan to stop overspending. >> it's pretty hard to go through a budget when there is no budget at least on the senate side one that both houses passed. let's get to the meat of what i want to discuss. we